Legislature(2005 - 2006)CAPITOL 17

02/04/2005 03:15 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE


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*+ HB 102 FOREIGN MEDICAL SCHOOL GRADUATES TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
*+ HB 109 SCREENING NEWBORNS FOR HEARING ABILITY TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
HB 109-SCREENING NEWBORNS FOR HEARING ABILITY                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:48:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ANDERSON  announced that  the next  order of business  would                                                              
be  House  Bill 109  HOUSE  BILL  NO.  109,  "An Act  relating  to                                                              
establishing  a  screening,  tracking,  and  intervention  program                                                              
related  to   the  hearing  ability   of  newborns   and  infants;                                                              
providing  an  exemption  to  licensure   as  an  audiologist  for                                                              
certain persons  performing hearing  screening tests;  relating to                                                              
insurance coverage  for newborn and infant hearing  screening; and                                                              
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
JANE  PIERSON,   legislative  aid  staff  to   Representative  Jay                                                              
Ramras,  introduced  the  bill  by  saying  that  there  are  four                                                              
issues:  foundation,  function,   nurse  versus  audiologist,  the                                                              
fiscal note  that comes health and  social services. She  read the                                                              
following:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Each year in Alaska approximately 10,000 babies are born.                                                                  
     30 to 40 of these children will be born with congenital                                                                    
     hearing defects. Hearing loss is more prevalent than any                                                                   
     other congenital abnormalities for which newborns are                                                                      
     routinely screened. Studies have shown that children with a                                                                
     hearing impairment not detected at birth, will likely not                                                                  
     have their impairment detected, until 2-3 years of age.                                                                    
     Studies have also shown that the most critical time for                                                                    
     speech development and cognitive development is from birth                                                                 
     to 3 years of age. Ultimately, this bill will save the                                                                     
     state money, due to the fact that when children are not                                                                    
     identified with a hearing impairment, and aided early, the                                                                 
     special education costs for a child with a hearing loss may                                                                
     cost an additional $420,000, and deafness has an estimated                                                                 
     lifetime cost of approximately $1 million per individual.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:49:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PIERSON went  on  to say  that the  bill  have three  initial                                                              
offerings. She said  that it would require the  testing of infants                                                              
for  hearing loss  before leaving the hospital, or  within 30 days                                                              
if not born in  a hospital. She then said that  HB 109 will ensure                                                              
the development  of a reporting  and tracking system  for newborns                                                              
that are  deemed to  be at risk.   She  continued by stating  that                                                              
this could  no longer be  tracked privately  or any other  way due                                                              
to the  implantation of  HIPAA.   (Health Information  Portability                                                              
Act) Finally, she  pointed out that this bill  provided diagnostic                                                              
intervention-  any child  who fails an  initial hearing  screening                                                              
is referred  for a  re-screening.  She  continued by  stating that                                                              
once  a child  is  diagnosed with  a hearing  impairment,  parents                                                              
will be  provided by  the department  with written information  on                                                              
the   availability    services   through   community    resources,                                                              
government  agencies,  parent  support   organizations  affiliated                                                              
with  deafness, counseling  and education  services, and  programs                                                              
offered through  the department  and the  Department of  Education                                                              
and Early Development.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. PIERSON then  went on to the issue of using  a nurse versus an                                                              
audiologist. She read the following:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     HB 109 would allow for a trained nurse to delegate the                                                                     
     administration of one of two tests, the automated auditory                                                                 
     brainstem response tests (AABR) or the otoacoustic emission                                                                
     test (OAE).  The AABR test is the most commonly used test.                                                                 
     It consists of putting microphones into the infant's ears,                                                                 
     while EEG sensors are placed on the child's head.  Clicking                                                                
     sounds are then played through the microphones and the                                                                     
     sensors pick up the infant's brain response.  An OAE test                                                                  
     involves putting microphones in the infant's ears while a                                                                  
     computer records inner ear response.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:51:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.PIERSON  continued this  by adding  that nurses  can easily  be                                                              
trained to  do both of these tasks.  It is the logical  choice for                                                              
them to be  the individuals to  perform the tests, since  they are                                                              
already performing numerous tests on the newborns.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. PIERSON  ended with a discussion  of the fiscal  note provided                                                              
by  the  Health  and Social  Services  Department.  She  read  the                                                              
following:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Please take a look at the fiscal note provided by the                                                                      
     Department of Health & Social Services in your package.                                                                    
     The fiscal note associated with HB 109 is significantly                                                                    
     lower than any provided previously in 2001 or 2003, when                                                                   
     versions of this bill were also presented before this                                                                      
     committee.  This is because public health nursing centers                                                                  
     in outlying communities have been provided with the                                                                        
     necessary equipment through Federal Grants.  Also, money                                                                   
     for the services requested in this bill is already in place                                                                
     through Infant Learning Programs.  Additionally, Federal                                                                   
     Grant monies have been extended through the next three                                                                     
     years, which would explain the increase in the fiscal note                                                                 
     for the year 2009.  However, it should be noted that these                                                                 
     grants may be extended and the additional monies in the                                                                    
     note may not be required.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:52:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PIERSON  then stated that  she had met  with the  Director of                                                              
Public  Health, Dr.  Manzagar. She  indicated that  it was  he who                                                              
instigated the  changes in the  CS currently being  discussed. She                                                              
announced that  one of the  big changes  include a date  change on                                                              
page one, and  a portion of page  five, lines 15 through  19, were                                                              
deleted. She  pointed out that this  is due to the fact  that most                                                              
insurers  are already  paying for  these  costs, due  to the  fact                                                              
that  both Medicaid  regulations  and  most private  insurers  are                                                              
already  paying  the  $20-60 dollar  fee  associated  with  infant                                                              
hearing  screening at  birth.   Additionally, she  said, it  would                                                              
not be feasible  for the Department of Health  and Social Services                                                              
to take  on these  charges. She  ended by  stating that  she could                                                              
have a redline  copy of the bill  created and run you  through the                                                              
changes on the CS                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:53:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOTT  interjected   that  the  committee  had  not                                                              
adopted the CS.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOTT  moved  to  adopt CSHB  109,  Version  10924-                                                              
LS0450\G,  as the  working document.   There  being no  objection,                                                              
Version G was before the committee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  ANDERSON  asked  Ms. Pierson  to  explain  the  differences                                                              
between the original bill and the new bill.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:53:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. PIERSON  began to list the  changes that have occurred  in the                                                              
bill. She  started with  page two,  line 15,  90 percent  has been                                                              
changed to  100 percent,  and on  line 16,  and the phrase  ending                                                              
with '2007  'has been changed to  '2008'. She continued  with page                                                              
4, line  15, where '50  births' has been  changed to  '20 births';                                                              
also on page  4, line 26, psychological and  cognitive development                                                              
have been added;  lines 27 and 28 are new. On page  five, she said                                                              
that  lines 15-19  were  deleted  and lines  18  and  19 have  new                                                              
phrases  which  read 'and  sent  to  the department  for  tracking                                                              
under AS  47.20.320'. On page six,  line 15, the  words 'certified                                                              
nurse-midwife  and  direct-entry  midwife'  were  added.  On  page                                                              
seven, line 10  the words 'tracking and intervention'  were added,                                                              
along  with the  addition of  lines 18-22.  Finally, lines  28-30,                                                              
which  now read  'when conducting  a  performance evaluation,  the                                                              
department shall  develop hearing screening  performance standards                                                              
and must  include a  false positive rate  and false  negative rate                                                              
of screening results  that are less than or equal  to 3percent. On                                                              
page eight the  definition for health care insurer  is now defined                                                              
as "  entity regulated  by the director  of insurance,  Department                                                              
of Commerce, Community,  and Economic Development,  and includes a                                                              
health  hospital,  or  medical service  plan  corporation,  and  a                                                              
health maintenance  organization. She ended with  the change found                                                              
on line 16, where the sound level of 30 dB was changed to 40 dB.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:56:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ANDERSON announced  that his intent is to hold  the bill. He                                                              
indicated that there  are substantive changes and  he thought that                                                              
more time  is needed  to allow  the committee  members to  go over                                                              
the  changes  that have  been  discussed  by Ms.  Pierson.  Public                                                              
Testimony is  next and he  urged the witnesses  to try and  not be                                                              
duplicative  or redundant and  to keep  the testimony  under three                                                              
minutes.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOTT stated  that  in section  4 of  the bill,  he                                                              
wanted to know  what the number of births outside  hospitals would                                                              
be.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. PIERSON  answered that there  are others that could  give this                                                              
information more correctly.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOTT  reiterated that  the reason he  is interested                                                              
in this,  he pointed out  that in the  last sentence,  which read,                                                              
'the  department employees  shall  notify the  child's parents  of                                                              
the  merits of  having the  child screened  for hearing  ability',                                                              
gives him  some concern. Unless  there is another division  of the                                                              
bill,  the  part  that deals  with  legislative  intent  'services                                                              
shall implement  the program so  that 100 percent of  newborns are                                                              
being  screened'-  this  is  not necessarily  true  if  there  are                                                              
births outside the hospital and/or they opt not to do it.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. PIERSON stated  that there is a form that parents  can sign if                                                              
they choose not to  do it, and there are those  that choose not to                                                              
even  respond it  is  the case  with  certain  native groups.  The                                                              
public health nurse  now has the equipment and can  go into native                                                              
villages and its  no longer that hard to have  these native groups                                                              
fall in line.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOTT agreed and  said that it  is a lofty  goal to                                                              
have native  groups  fall in line  with the  testing, and  achieve                                                              
100percent.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GUTTENBERG  followed this  up,  referring to  page                                                              
five, where  he asked what kinds  of protections and what  kind of                                                              
forms  would allow  this  to happen  and  secondly  what kinds  of                                                              
repercussions would the child have if parents refuse testing?                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. PIERSON stated  that there was a request from  the division of                                                              
public health  but it did not make  it to the creation  of the CS.                                                              
They requested  an additional part  that would have read  that the                                                              
department   will  exhibit  oversight   responsibility   for  EHDI                                                              
programs.  She then said  that this  was not  what she  wanted and                                                              
requested for  one of the online  people who she thought  might be                                                              
able  to answer  this  question. She  pointed  out that  Stephanie                                                              
Birch would be a good person to ask                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  ANDERSON   announced  that  he  would  first   open  public                                                              
testimony  to  the  floor  and  then  go  back  to  Representative                                                              
Guttenberg's question  and Stephanie Birch's answer.  He opens the                                                              
floor to Ms. Pam Mueller-Guy, a deaf woman from Juneau, Alaska.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
PAM  MUELLER-GUY,  Deaf  Services  Coordinator,  Southeast  Alaska                                                              
Independent  Living,  Incorporated   (SAIL),  read  the  following                                                              
text:                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     I  was born  as a hearing  child.  However, I  had to have  a                                                              
     blood transfusion  from a stranger when I was  five days old,                                                              
     due  to  my rare  blood  type.  Due  to this  transfusion,  I                                                              
     became  deaf, but  no one  realized it  until I  was about  2                                                              
     years old.   Even as  a toddler, I  could speak a  little bit                                                              
     and  mimicked   my  brother  while  playing   with  toys.  My                                                              
     grandmother  finally  figured  out  that I  could  not  hear,                                                              
     realizing I  never responded when  they called my  name. Only                                                              
     when a  loud noise occurred,  such as  a stomp on  the floor,                                                              
     did  I look  their  way.   They  finally took  me  to have  a                                                              
     hearing test  and I was diagnosed with severe  profound nerve                                                              
     deafness  (caused   by  disease  or  severe   trauma  to  the                                                              
     cochlear nerve).  They wept for me because they  did not know                                                              
     what to  do. They asked, "How  can she hear music?"  My whole                                                              
     family  is musical!  They  had grief  until  they realized  I                                                              
     could experience  music.  My mother wrote letters  to all the                                                              
     important  people that know  about deafness  and to  the John                                                              
     Tracy  clinic in  California.  They gave  a lot  of info  and                                                              
     said  it was  needed for  parent to  work with  me and  go to                                                              
     school  half-day to learn  how to  work with  me.   I started                                                              
     speech  classes  at  2.5  years   old  then  started  wearing                                                              
     hearing  aids at 3.5  years old and  started half  days until                                                              
     four years old  to stay at the boarding  parents house during                                                              
     the  week because  deaf  school  was 25  miles  away from  my                                                              
     home.   I hope that for the  new generation that  they can be                                                              
     diagnosed  early and  begin  to learn  early so  they may  be                                                              
     capable of  writing English easy  instead of the hard  way. I                                                              
     see  most  deaf and  hard  of hearing  have  a  hard time  in                                                              
     Alaska   for  jobs.   Schools  also   should  have   programs                                                              
     specifically  for  children  who are  deaf  so they  wont  be                                                              
     isolated.  I am hopeful  children who are  deaf will  be able                                                              
     to  communicate  in  both  the hearing  world  and  the  deaf                                                              
     world.  The newborn  hearing  screen would  be  best for  all                                                              
     needs so  the parents  of the baby  can start early  to learn                                                              
    to cope with the child and their lives would be easier!                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. MUELLER-GUY  went  on to talk  about her  experience of  being                                                              
held back in school  and how it affected her  social wellbeing and                                                              
learning  throughout her  childhood. She  emphasized that  she was                                                              
held  back  a  total  of four  years  which  really  affected  her                                                              
ability to maintain friendships.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  ANDERSON asked  Ms. Mueller-Guy  if  she would  be able  to                                                              
hand a written copy of the testimony to each committee member.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. MUELLER-GUY indicated that she would be able to do this.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  ANDERSON   asked  for  other  input  from   others  in  the                                                              
audience.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
JODY  RUMPH,  executive  director  of  the  Governors  Council  on                                                              
Disability  and   Special  Education,   applauded  the   bill  and                                                              
announced  her strong  support  for  the provisions,  saving  that                                                              
"its  time  had  come"  and  that the  "cost  was  down"  and  she                                                              
enthusiastically  said  that  the  committee  needed  to  pass  it                                                              
through.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  ANDERSON  asked  for another  deposition  from  the  online                                                              
group.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MARY  WAYMILLER,  citizen,  Fairbanks,  Alaska,  stated  that  she                                                              
works for  a service organization  focused on helping  the hearing                                                              
impaired. According  to her, the  organization gives  4000 dollars                                                              
worth of  grant money  to area schools  to help  with the  cost of                                                              
testing  equipment and  therapy. She  ended by  stating that  this                                                              
bill would help with the costs.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ANDERSON asked for the next speaker, Sig Restad.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SIG  RESTED,  Master,  Northland  Pioneer Grange,  of  the  Alaska                                                              
State   Grange,  spoke   in  favor   of   this  legislation,   and                                                              
characterized the  legislation as cost-effective  and inexpensive.                                                              
He said that he  had one question, which dealt with  page 6, lines                                                              
14-5.  He continued  by  stating  that physician  assistants  were                                                              
excluded from the  list of healthcare professionals  and wanted to                                                              
know why this was the case.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  ANDERSON   pointed  out   that  the  Valley   Hospital  has                                                              
Physician  Assistants,  and  this  should  be  considered  by  the                                                              
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
STEPHANIE  BIRCH, Acting  Chief, Women's,  Children's, and  Family                                                              
Health  Unit, Division  of Public  Health, stated  there were  two                                                              
questions  that  needed to  be  addressed.    The first  one,  she                                                              
continued,  has to  do with  the  number of  home deliveries.  She                                                              
answered this  question by stating  that there were  approximately                                                              
150  home  deliveries  a  year,  as  well  as  200  deliveries  at                                                              
birthing centers  set up in rural  areas. The second  question had                                                              
to do  with protection of  provider liability. She  asked everyone                                                              
to refer  to page 6,  lines 14-20, to  which she opined  that when                                                              
parents  refuse the  free  testing, there  are  other places  that                                                              
these  parents can  go to later  on, after  it is  offered at  the                                                              
child's birth.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:11:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GUTTENBERG  asked if  there was a  conflict between                                                              
this section (the  Women's and Children's Family  Health Unit) and                                                              
HIPA.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BIRCH resolutely  said that  her  group is  a covered  entity                                                              
under HPA and there is no conflict of interest.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ANDERSON asked for another witness to speak.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
NANCY GERSHERT,  Speech Pathologist,  felt that the  opportunities                                                              
created by  early intervention were too  great to miss  and when a                                                              
child  is given  the technology  and the  early intervention,  the                                                              
difference is amazing.  She maintained that it was  truly sad when                                                              
a child missed early testing.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
LISA  OWENS,   speech  pathologist  and  audiologist,   Anchorage,                                                              
Alaska, stated  that previous in  her career, she worked  with the                                                              
state  of Colorado  and  was able  to  watch  their early  testing                                                              
program get  started. The  differences between  the children  that                                                              
were tested  later, between  18 months and  2 years,  versus those                                                              
that were  tested early,  before three months,  was great.  In her                                                              
practice  here in  Alaska, she  announced that  she currently  has                                                              
twenty kids, half  of which were tested early, and  the other half                                                              
which were  tested later. She said  that the differences  in their                                                              
skill level corroborated what she experienced in Colorado.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:15:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. OWENS, in  referring to severely to profoundly  deaf children,                                                              
she stated  that the kids that  are identified early on  have many                                                              
more  possibilities and  options  for treatment.  This  translates                                                              
into more job choices and more choices for the future.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DEBBIE GOLDEN, Registered  Nurse and Director of  Program Services                                                              
with the March of  Dimes, stated that the mission  of the March of                                                              
Dimes is the prevention  of birth defects and has  been in service                                                              
for over  65 years. They strongly  stand behind early  testing for                                                              
newborns. Thirty-nine  states have  enacted early hearing  testing                                                              
for newborns,  and she stated  that Alaska  needs to do  this now.                                                              
She continued  by stating that  a baby should  be able to  be born                                                              
in Alaska and be assured of testing.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  ANDERSON  announced  that   the  entire  committee  present                                                              
endorsed the bill and would act as co-sponsors.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DIANE  DISANTO,  assistant to  the  Mayor, Anchorage,  stated  her                                                              
strong support  and continued by saying  her city has half  of the                                                              
total  annual  births of  the  state,  and  [of this  amount],  15                                                              
children are susceptible to being deaf each year.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
DR.  MARTIN BEALS,  private physician,  representing the  American                                                              
Academy of  Pediatricians, supported  the bill.  He then  read the                                                              
following statements:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Hearing loss is the most common birth defect                                                                               
     1 in 3000 children are born deaf                                                                                           
     Hearing loss has a significant negative impact                                                                             
He then  continued to say  that the main  parts of the  bills that                                                              
are  important  to  himself  and  the  medical  community  is  the                                                              
rescreening aspect  that the bill  allows.  Retesting,  he pointed                                                              
out, included  diagnostic testing. This  test moves on  to further                                                              
intervention. He  reiterated that all components  are orchestrated                                                              
together to make mitigation work.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
KRISTA  GALYEN, Education  Specialist,  Special Education  Service                                                              
Agency  (SESA), announced  her  support for  the  bill. She  cited                                                              
that from her experience  both in Alaska and in  Oregon, she could                                                              
definitely  see  the  benefits  of early  testing  and  access  to                                                              
language,  both socially  and academically.  She pointed  out that                                                              
when identification  is taken  away, many  choices for  the future                                                              
are destroyed.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MICHELLE RADIN,  education specialist,  Special Education  Service                                                              
Agency  (SESA),  announced  her   support.  She  pointed  out  the                                                              
problems  associated with  hearing  disorders.  She described  the                                                              
situation as  one where the child  is in an environment  bereft of                                                              
environmental  input, most  importantly,  the passive  information                                                              
that is  given through conversational  import and  social context.                                                              
The ability  to interact with  the external environment  and being                                                              
able  to   have  an   active  role  in   the  exterior   world  is                                                              
exceptionally  affected  by  sensory  deprivation.  Language,  she                                                              
said, is the key to mitigating this deficit.                                                                                    
4:24:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  ANDERSON  indicated the  detail  that  she brought  to  her                                                              
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SUSAN WALKER  pointed out that  she submitted a  written testimony                                                              
earlier  to  the committee,  and  pointed  out  that she  has  two                                                              
children with  hearing loss, and  points out that neither  of them                                                              
were tested  early on  as newborns. She  concluded that  the early                                                              
testing program is critical to mitigating the problem.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ANDERSON  understood her  problem and  opened the  floor for                                                              
the last ten minutes of public testimony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:26:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REED  STOOPS,  America's  Health Insurance  Plans  (AHIP),  stated                                                              
that they  support the bill  and that the  only problem  that they                                                              
have  with the  current language  of  the bill  occurs on  section                                                              
five   of  the   bill.  The   association   recommends  that   the                                                              
legislature  require  a  mandated  offering  of  the  coverage  as                                                              
opposed to  a mandated  benefit. The  reason for  that is  that it                                                              
should  be the choice  of the  insures  to take a  look at  health                                                              
benefits  and  decide  themselves  how  they  want  audio  logical                                                              
testing to  be covered in  their package.  It should, he  said, be                                                              
in the employees domain of choice.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:28:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. STOOPS,  having  passed out  a list of  the mandated  benefits                                                              
that have legislated  over the past ten years or  so, then went on                                                              
to say that by  taking a look at all of those coverages  and put a                                                              
price  tag on  all of  them, you  can see  that this  is just  one                                                              
factor in  the increase in premium  costs over time  and basically                                                              
this is an elective that can be offered but not required.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
[HB 109 was held over.]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                

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